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Gnoment's avatar

Love the review Mari! I too hope many people read this book. I would just add that crime also is psychologically damaging for people. Crime generates anxiety, mistrust, and fear - and its not good to marinate in negative feelings all the time! When you live in a neighborhood with a lot of crime, so much energy goes to vigilance and worry.

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Mari your posts are always a joy to read. In this case very much appreciate how you bust through the barriers to understanding that book "blurbing" now creates. Vance and Peterson are "coded" as right wingers, which is apparently all one needs to know for so many people on the left.

But I'd go a bit further here. My motto is: "people are complicated". I try to remember this every time I encounter someone espousing some belief or attitude that I disagree with. I think I have developed this strategy out of necessity because I am a non-lefty academic (an agnostic, I guess, in religion as well as politics); virtually all my colleagues are hard-left politically, and have reflexive beliefs (including luxury beliefs) about many things that they do not actually understand. Also, I am a southerner who now lives in the upper midwest. During my three decades as a transplant, I have found that nobody up here understands the culture of the south, but everyone thinks they do. BUT! I work with these people. We co-teach design studios. We drive thousands of miles around the country with three dozen undergrads every fall. We work on committees that actually accomplish good things. We have a beer together at happy hour every Thursday.

The lesson for me is that no one should be reduced to being "coded"—you embrace that notion here—but also, no one should be represented incompletely and tendentiously. Jordan Peterson may have nutty ideas about diet (I had not heard of this), but he's well-known for big ideas about big things that run contrary to the postmodern/woke catechism. He's an important culture critic; whatever you think of his arguments, he makes thoughtful arguments. Better to refer to him for the substance of his work that to dismiss him for his beefism.

A further quibble: you "beg the question" about climate change. Causation has not been established between anthropogenic climate inputs and weather events or wildfires, but for many this is received wisdom. Al Gore famously stated that "the science is settled". This is not true. For some of us, being skeptical about this is not "luxury beliefs", but a completely honest devotion to open-mindedness.

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