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Casey's avatar

The "you guys" bit seems totally performative. It's true, some people might feel really bad being called "you guys"- like trans women who are used to being called guys as an insult, or people who feel like they're being lumped in with a bad group. The solution isn't to stop saying "you guys" at all, though- it's to just. Not say it around the people who find it offensive, specifically (I have this problem a lot with a writing group I run online, where one person hates a lot of very common writing subjects... thankfully my friend supported my decision to tell him "I can't say nobody should talk about that, just ask that they don't talk about it around you".)

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Carina's avatar

Great post. The worst dynamic I see is when some loud person decides that a certain word or phrase is offensive, and a bunch of their followers (who were never bothered before) jump on a new opportunity to police others.

If a term is genuinely hurtful to a certain group of people, they will know it. If they didn't realize it could be construed as offensive until they read a long Twitter thread... maybe we're better off letting it go.

For example, I never blink at "you guys" even though I'm not a guy. I could train myself to hear it as sexist, and start cringing and correcting people.... but I'd rather continue to be blissfully unbothered.

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